Wednesday, October 7, 2009

Clemson leads area schools, but Wolfpack climbing

We thought we’d take another of our occasional looks at how our seven major Carolinas football schools are doing in the Scout.com rankings, and the biggest news is that N.C. State, which has been on a roll lately, continues to move up.

The Wolfpack, which recently induced QB Tyler Brosius to switch his commitment from Virginia, is now No.31 on the list, after recently being in the second 50.

The best ranking of a Carolinas’ school belongs to Clemson, at No.22. The Tigers already have commitments from 18 players. South Carolina, with 16 commits, is rated 26th.

Wake
Forest
is No.38, North Carolina is No.46 and Duke is No.56, rounding out our ACC schools. East Carolina is 89th, and also has the fewest commitments, with six.

All of this, of course, is subject to change—possibly dramatic change—prior to signing day in February.

--Stan Olson

16 comments:

Anonymous said...

Based on average stars on Scout:
UNC: #28
Clemson: #31
SC: #33
NCS: #40
WF: #48
Duke: #71
ECU: #97

Things change a bit when you take out the quantity factor; however not all players have been evaluated and rankings will change before February.

Anonymous said...

And if you take the average stars from Rivals.com:

NC State #18
Clemson #19
South Carolina #29
UNC #48
WFU #53
Duke #65
ECU #108

Pretty big disparity there. In addition to rankings being generally pretty much pointless, it's also still very early. Rivals appears to have evaluated certain players that Scout has not, for example.

Anonymous said...

Actually, with respect to the UNC commits, the rankings are very similar. Of the 8 players rated by Rivals, Rivals has doled out 27 total stars, Scout has doled out 28 total stars. 2 recruits have not been evaluated by Rivals and so currently have 0 stars each. Those 2 recruits are what pull down the Rivals average star rating.

Of course this recruiting talk is all meaningless because national signing day is 4 months away.

Anonymous said...

The same thing applies to two of NC State's commitments on Scout.com.

These ratings are all foolish, though. They're nothing more than a way to get fans excited and buy subscriptions to recruiting websites.

Anonymous said...

Stars....Geez

Anonymous said...

Who freakin cares. Jesus, it's such an overanalyzed issue.

ECUfan89 said...

I am frustrated with ECU recruiting. Our stadium expansions (50,000 for next year and 60,000+ by 2012) will help but we are conference champs (C-USA isnt that bad) and in the previous 2 or 3 seasons have beaten the likes of UNC, NC State, Virginia Tech, West Virginia, Boise State, App State, etc. and been ranked. Skip Holtz can coach up his 2 and 3 star guys like Chris Johnson and Dwayne Harris but I am not sure he can recruit. I know we are not BCS (yet) but we have a growing program and a amazing fan base. Get it together guys.

Brendan said...

Interesting that you include the last paragraph that things could change before February, while you declared that NC State "wins" in-state recruiting battle against UNC just 7 days ago in http://www.newsobserver.com/sports/college/story/118486.html

Anonymous said...

Coach Davis is none to concerned about these ratings. He knows best and his recruiting superiority and coache makes it all a moot point. The wolfpups and tiggers will be in our rear view mirrors while they worry about recruiting rankings

WDB said...

"Coach Davis is none to concerned about these ratings. He knows best and his recruiting superiority and coache makes it all a moot point. The wolfpups and tiggers will be in our rear view mirrors while they worry about recruiting rankings"

That sounds like the same types of things NC State was saying back in 05 and 06, and we know how that turned out. Enjoy Butch Amato while you have him.

Anonymous said...

Commit to UNC you are a 4 star, same guy at Penn State is a 5 star, if he decides he likes ECU he is a 3 star. Why is our newspaper using an openly biased system like Rivals "star" system. Literally if you watch a player commit to ECU then check his star rating it goes down the next day. He's the same player he was the day before, these rankings are a joke.

Anonymous said...

Well, when UNC loses this year to FSU, VT, Miami, and NCS, the recruits, much like the fans, will abandon Coach Davis. This is NOT the Carolina way! Disappointing to say the least!

Anonymous said...

If UNC loses anyone else on the OL, the next two Thursday nights will be a complete embarrassment, young team or not. FSU and VT will crush us on national tv. How will Coach Davis explain a 45-0 beatdown this time?

bjh1024 said...

Its pretty hilarious when people take these numbers so literally. Obviously ECU is not #97 in recruiting. ECU has a 2 star guy named Gentry. Meanwhile he has offers from FSU, Mich ST, and about a dozen other "AQ schools". I'd take the fact that those schools offered scholarships over some guy handing out stars from Scout.com. ECU has 11 known recruits so far, not 6 or 7, or whatever this article said. And 6 out of the 11 have offers from "AQ schools". Chapel Hill is going to get the higher ranked in state guys- thats just the way it is. But ECU is competing with all these schools and is doing well. Recruiting rankings mean nothing.

Anthony said...

While the star rankings do have there hits and misses every year, they do mean something. Look at the schools that are in the top 10 in the recruiting rankings every year. They are the same ones that occupy the Top 10 of the BCS rankings and complete the the championship every year. There are always exceptions, but generally, Texas, Oklahoma, Florida, USC, Ohio State etc are Top 10 in recruiting and are playing for championships.

Can you make a splash and compete at the highest level for a few years without high level recruiting classes? Yes, but if you want to be a consistent top program, you need to consistantly get top recruiting classes.

Anonymous said...

"Interesting that you include the last paragraph that things could change before February, while you declared that NC State "wins" in-state recruiting battle against UNC just 7 days ago in"

Not that interesting given that their is no combination of recruits or reasonable scenarios in which UNC would pass NC State in in-state recruiting. In fact, NC State has added an instate top 20 player since that post was put up. I guess you're banking on committed kids changing their minds and coming to a program that just lost 16-3 to a winless UVA team?